thanks for very clear reply. My problem is that the team I am dealing with are by and large new to weight training so I in some cases am dealing with novices to the extent that we are teaching them to lift having given them a base of bodyweight resistance the med. ball work and other core work. That was why I was going to use traditional periodisation.Would you recommend your suggeation to me still . Where can I read more about your suggestion and what will I look under? Just talking to Philip Mc L here just off to shop to get rugby balls for my camp. Sorry if I appear behind I do know what you mean just need access to more info. Main thing do you recommend your suggestion still assuming they can lift properly and safely.