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- September 22, 2008 at 12:12 pm #23336bris83Guest
Trap Bar Deadlift 5×3
Reverse Hyper 3×8
Hanging Leg Raises
Ab Wheel Rollouts
3×10 on ab exercises, complete as a tri-set.
Short turnaround this week, playing friday night.September 24, 2008 at 1:57 pm #24605tomwillGuest
Do you always use the trap bar for deads rather than the straight barbell or is this something you change from time to time?
TomSeptember 24, 2008 at 3:12 pm #24600bris83Guest
Something I do tend to change, however, I will usually lean to sticking with the trap bar for younger players as it is safer and easier to manage a heavy load, without worrying about the technical side. When you have players deadlifting with low reps it gets competitive and sometime their form can breakdown in the quest to outlift their team mates.
With players who have a high training history and no previous prbolems with their lower back, I am fine with them using a normal Olympic bar and would in fact encourage its use.
In short I am looking for the safest/easiest way to put load through their legs/glutes without compromising their lower back.
Hope this answers your question.
Tom.September 24, 2008 at 9:39 pm #24606tomwillGuest
Great, thanks for reply.
All the best for the rest of the season mate.
TomSeptember 24, 2008 at 9:46 pm #24593ashleyGuest
Hi there, I agree with Bris the trap bar is a great start off tool for younger players learning how to control their bodies and get load through the legs and hip region, I also like regular dead lifting off of mats or off of the pins in the power rack, particularly if a player can not maintain god form off of the floor often the case with taller athletes, also the trap bar is great for overhead pressing as well, gives a new angle and loading pattern to the shoulder girdle. cheers. ashOctober 21, 2008 at 8:16 pm #24595andy_macGuest
Bris, I know this is a bit late, but is that the only weights conditioning the players did this week?
When did the team play to make that a quick turnaround for the Friday game?
ThanksOctober 22, 2008 at 6:15 am #24601bris83Guest
No some did a quick upper body session (30mins max) consisting of some push/pull supersets. To make it a short turnaround we played on the sunday and then had to prepare for the friday.October 22, 2008 at 8:20 pm #24596andy_macGuest
When you say some, is that players that you work with, or do they have control of what they do depending on how they feel?
I guess that programs must change depending on how a player feels from the previous game?
Thanks for your input buddy!!October 23, 2008 at 5:44 am #24602bris83Guest
‘some’ means anyone who felt fresh enough to conduct an upper body session and yes that was with me in our gym.October 23, 2008 at 8:27 pm #24597andy_macGuest
Bris do you have a number of players that you look after at the club or do you work under the supervision of the Head of S&C (apologies if you have moved up mate..lol)
How has your development been managed since being at the club? Do you consult with the Head of S&C or just crack on?
Sorry for the probing Qs mate, just really interested as thats what I am doing this coming season at a RL club albeit with an academy side.
Happy for you too email me if you don’t want to put that sort of stuff up!October 25, 2008 at 1:58 pm #24603bris83Guest
No worries. i have written a few articles for this site and as such you will see my title. I am the assistant strength & conditioning coach for Bristol Rugby Club in England. I work as no. 2 of a department of 4. We have a Head of Physical Preparation, Me, Academy Strength & Conditioning Coach and an Intern.
I am responsible for the player programming of 22 players out of a squad of 46 (including academy). I am allowed to fully express myself but also have to work within the philosophy of the department.
In terms of my development I have held the following positions;
Academy S & C Coach
Assistant S & C Coach
Which RL club do you work for?October 25, 2008 at 2:01 pm #24604bris83Guest
Also in case you wondered who are the 22 players that I programme and post about on here they are mixture of first team players, internationals, squad players and young up and coming players.October 26, 2008 at 8:08 pm #24598andy_macGuest
Celtic Crusaders mate. I am working with their reserve (Academy with 1st team floater players) team. I have recently left the Army where I worked in rehab with amputees etc. from operations.
I am really looking forward to the new challenge ahead. I have a background of working with union teams and worked a lot with the Army RL team. For me its a great step to the next level up!October 29, 2008 at 10:11 pm #24594ashleyGuest
Hi Andy just to tag onto your post to Bris, I head up my program at crusaders with an unofficial assistant, Luke Thornley, he is the Academy S & C coach, he and I will look at all aspects of the program together, and I have for the last 2 years given him the speed area to make his own, he develops this in consultation with me, I have power of veto over any aspect that I do not consider being in the players and programs best interest, he will also assist me in the weight room where we both, coach and spot together as much as we can, we also train in the gym each morning together where we do a lot of program development as we bounce ideas off of each other between setsduring the off season I have probably 10 or more service providers that are involved in our physical development program, various specialists in their own sports, a short list is:
Gaelic football coach/ref
Basketball skills coach/refs
Yoga and Pilates specialists
Waka coach (Maori canoe)
Luke and I will go to different venues over the off season and see how each is going and then chat about it and see what activities are effective and which we may have to cut and replace form next years program, I would have to say that without Lukes input the program we run would be a lot poorer without him, cheers, ashleyOctober 29, 2008 at 11:43 pm #24599andy_macGuest
Thanks for your input guys, as always its very informative and appreciated by myself and other forum users.
I am only working on a part time basis therefore I intend to work with other athletes in the area and possibly intern at other venues. All exciting stuff!!
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