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  • #23290
    Gareth
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    Ash,

    He’s a bit of a one off having played at the highest level in League and Union in the forwards where the demands of both games differ the most.

    He is a player of similar dimensions to myself and as a League player I’ve always watched him closely to see if I can pick up any things I can carry into my own game.

    As his Strength Conditioning Coach can you enlighten me to a few things he works specifically hard on in his training and conditioning, that in your opinion keep him on top.

    All the best- the new Platinum Site is outstanding.

    Gareth

    #24388
    ashley
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    Hi Gareth, well what can I say about Brad Thorn, he had the best s & c coach in Australia developing him whilst at the Broncos, he is extremely strong, 170 kg bench press, very deep squat with close to 200kg, a whisker away from 140kg power clean, so a full package, he mainatains a good weight around 113kg, we do a lot more power work with him this time around back in Rugby, a lot of contrast work as well, aerobically he is very good as well, he really listens to his body more these days being a little older and wiser, he does everything that we have in our program but we talk alot as to where he is physically and then modify if he heeds to, he spends most of time of the basics and he is a model to all players let alone young players that the basics done very well with passion will get you along way, so nothing really special or magic but hard consistent work over a long period of time, cheers, ashley

    #24398
    Gareth
    Participant

    Cheers Ash. Thanks for taking time to get back to me.

    Poundages on lifts are extremely impressive- and also I’m glad to hear that with his age his Conditioning Programme has to be a flexible beast depending upon how he feels. After all, if you’re not recovering, you’re not going to progress.

    At nearly 32 I find myself, reluctantly I admit, finding that I must train more instinctively and be prepared to change on the day!

    I also find the premise of “Basics with enthusiasm” very empowering as I feel I’ve been preaching it to the young guys coming through the club without much success.

    At the end of the day “The Strongest Shall Survive”- never a truer word spoken.

    #24396
    onspeed
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    I would have to say with envy – everytime I look at Brad Thorn I think decathlete!!

    Ali Williams, Rodney Soialo and Joe Rothocoko (please excuse spelling) strike me the same !!!! Basic speed and power, athleticism to burn – height a huge advantage

    No offence to NZ rugby – long may you reign …. but can you imagine the added strength to a NZ track and field team ….. or a NZ bobsleigh team… hmm is that an off season training thought — european winter training :>>>

    #24393
    prop
    Guest

    what would someone like Greg Somerville be lifting

    #24389
    ashley
    Guest

    Greg is a 150 kg bench presser, 125 kg power clean and a 240 kg box squatter to 47cm box, he is also around a 9 minute 40 second 2.4km run time at 113kg body weight, ash

    #24394
    sexyopenside
    Guest

    @ashley 509 wrote:

    Greg is a 150 kg bench presser, 125 kg power clean and a 240 kg box squatter to 47cm box, he is also around a 9 minute 40 second 2.4km run time at 113kg body weight, ash

    What would Richie Mccaw be lifting and his running time?

    #24395
    kosterzoo
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    @onspeed 505 wrote:

    ….. or a NZ bobsleigh team… hmm is that an off season training thought — european winter training :>>>

    For the record, slightly off topic, the NZ bobsleigh team has been reinvented and they have assembled possibly the fastest start in world bobsleigh (based on data)

    So in 2010 could have a winter medalist??

    #24390
    ashley
    Guest

    @sexyopenside 526 wrote:

    What would Richie Mccaw be lifting and his running time?

    Richie has a few injuries that we work around and we find that we are better off for him to keep his body together so a lot of pulls off of blocks and all pressing work is with DB’s he is a 8 min 40 sec 2.4km runner, we do not emphasis the strength numbers with him, cheers, ash

    #24397
    onspeed
    Guest

    K

    I agree given the guys that got selected through the talent ID search – real starting speed

    lets hope they can turn that into a medal

    … in the meantime hopefully dark horses … waiting to pounce

    #24399
    Gareth
    Participant

    Ash,

    Very enlightening information on the poundages.

    What kind of stats was Thorny knocking out on your running speed tests?

    Gareth

    #24391
    ashley
    Guest

    Hi there, Brad did a 9 min 40 sec 2.4km and a 12:4 on the Beep test, I will endeavour to track down some speed results if he wants them released, cheers, ash

    #24400
    Gareth
    Participant

    @ashley 554 wrote:

    Hi there, Brad did a 9 min 40 sec 2.4km and a 12:4 on the Beep test, I will endeavour to track down some speed results if he wants them released, cheers, ash

    Thanks again Ash…..very impressive on the Bleep Test, and not a bad effort on the distance run for a big fella.

    I’ll understand if he wants his flying 40m time kept under wraps, after all we wouldn’t want Usain Bolt finding out would we?;)

    #24392
    ashley
    Guest

    Yes indeed, we will have to keep the speed times for another time, but he is one very fit unit, cheers, ashley

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