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- August 20, 2008 at 8:37 pm #23296onspeedGuest
what level of strength and speed gains do you see season to season in pro rugby?
Bristol I know you mentioned 20% in some guys in squats across an 8 week off season programme – 180 to 220 kg squat whch is no mean feat even given that athlete may still be in the early part of the strength gain curve and given a bodyweight of I am guessing over 100kg – and I think you mentioned maybe around 5% in some of the 40m times?
So any breakdowns would be interesting – maybe early and later in career ?
ThanksAugust 21, 2008 at 9:26 am #24438simonGuest
As has been mentioned in previous posts by Ashley and Damien the Super 14 players only have a relatively short off/pre-season which obviously impacts on the physical improvements the players can make.
Young players in the academy systems have a great window for improvement, Dec-Apr before they start club rugby. In-season for these players also allows for continued physical gains as the intensity of the rugby is far less than the Super 14 and Air NZ Cup. This year we have had 8 academy players clean 135 – 150kg (bodyweights btw 90 – 115kg), this was only possible due to the 5 month training block at the beginning of the year.
Strength gains with more senior players are far harder, as they progress through the system the intensity of the rugby takes a far greater toll on their bodies and it becomes more about keeping the guys fresh (Ashley has referred to this in another post in regard to Ritchie McCaw). It does however depend a great deal on the individual. Last year we had a senior player 7 years as a pro, improve his power clean by 15kg (110-125) inseason. So each player must be treated differently.
So many factors effect the players during the year such as current injuries, surgery, travel, number of games played and not forgetting rugby specific training time that it becomes almost impossible to make systematic physical gains. I push my guys when I can. The key factor being that I have done all I can to help them prepare physically for game day.
It would be great to have the off season that the NFL guys have.
SimonAugust 21, 2008 at 9:30 am #24439onspeedGuest
I think you guys do incredibly well given the constraints of your sport
It is good to show some fo the lazy sprinters how lucky they are to have decent off seasons!
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