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  • #23292
    prop
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    So what do you guys generally do for nutrition of the athletes you work with.
    Startergies for muscle mass? Body Fat loss? High carb/low carb?

    #24409
    bris83
    Guest

    No starchy carbs.

    Caveman diet for majority of players, except on gameday.

    Plenty of veg and meat

    Supplements used are: fish oil (in high doses), zma, whey protein, multi-vits and muscle armour.

    #24418
    prop
    Guest

    wow so dosent the lack of carbs effect their energy during training/ recovery?

    #24410
    bris83
    Guest

    they still eat carbs…from veg (fibrous carbs)

    #24419
    prop
    Guest

    Potatoes? What about gatorade? PWO shake?

    #24411
    bris83
    Guest

    potatoes-sometimes

    gatorade during intense training only

    post workout, whey protein and glutamine only.

    Obviously not all the squad follow this but only those with fat issues, there are boys who do consume carbs.

    #24420
    prop
    Guest

    So generally how many carbs would a slightly overweight 110kg prop (lol) eat a day during a muscle building phase? I was under the impression that it would be very hard to eat enough fruit/veggies to get anywhere above say 75g carbs

    Thanks for the responses btw

    #24412
    bris83
    Guest

    we dont measure carbs in terms of g. but needless to say you can get enough to train at a high intensity but it means loading that plate up with veg, and plenty of it!

    #24421
    prop
    Guest

    ok interesting, do players still gain muscle with this approach or just drop body fat?

    #24413
    bris83
    Guest

    they gain muscle and loose fat

    #24430
    onspeed
    Guest

    hi mate

    interesting – you say veg … but I am assuming you mean fruit as well???

    What is compliance like on this approach?

    We tried it but found that modifying back more towards a zone type
    approach produced better long term compliance

    cheers

    #24403
    ashley
    Guest

    @prop 512 wrote:

    So what do you guys generally do for nutrition of the athletes you work with.
    Startergies for muscle mass? Body Fat loss? High carb/low carb?

    We are sponsored by Musashi, and access Glutamine, BCAA’s, Whey Protein, A Creatine Muscle Stack recovery formula, this we have in a drink machine in the kitchen attached to our weight room, so that players can sip on it during the workout, they are skinfolded once every 4 weeks if they need that level of attention if not just to begin the off season and periodically at their request, cheers, ash

    #24404
    ashley
    Guest

    @prop 515 wrote:

    wow so dosent the lack of carbs effect their energy during training/ recovery?

    I personally think that players have been give the high carb message far too much by nutritionists over the years and that they need considerably less and need higher levels of complete proteins, good fats, and cruciferous veges like broccoli, cheers, ash

    #24433
    powersports
    Guest

    I’m a second rower with a playing weight of 115kg
    Here is a rough example of what I eat on a typical day:

    3 eggs for breakfast plus a slice of cheese on whole grain bread, 2 glasses of milk

    tin of tuna for morning snack, glass of milk

    grilled chicked sandwich plus salad for lunch

    ham sandwich for afternoon tea

    protein bar 1 hour or so before workout / rugby training

    protein shake (with glutamine & creatine) post workout

    Lean meat and vegetables for dinner

    zma before bed

    This is a pretty general idea, and I often eat more

    I don’t have much body fat, and have alot of water throughout the day

    Is this diet adequate?

    As far as what I look for it is maintaining a good body weight throughout the year, and also functional weight gain in the off season.

    Cheers

    #24401
    GetstrengthGetstrength
    Participant

    Two very interesting books, available on Amazon.com worth a read.

    The Paleo Diet for Athletes: A Nutritional Formula for Peak Athletic Performance

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    Product Description

    Loren Cordain, Ph.D., follows his success of The Paleo Diet with the first book ever to detail the exercise-enhancing effects of a diet similar to that of our Stone Age ancestors.

    When The Paleo Diet was published, advocating a return to the diet of our ancestors (high protein, plenty of fresh fruits and vegetables), the book received brilliant reviews from the medical and nutritional communities. Jennie Brand-Miller, coauthor of the bestselling Glucose Revolution, called it “without a doubt the most nutritious diet on the planet.” Doctors Michael and Mary Dan Eades, authors of Protein Power, said, “We can’t recommend The Paleo Diet highly enough.”

    Now Dr. Cordain joins with USA triathlon and cycling elite coach Joe Friel to adapt the Paleo Diet to the needs of athletes. The authors show:
    o Why the typical athletic diet (top-heavy with grains, starches, and refined sugars) is detrimental to recovery, performance, and health
    o How the glycemic load and acid-base balance impact performance
    o Why consumption of starches and simple sugars is only beneficial in the immediate post-exercise period

    At every level of competition, The Paleo Diet for Athletes can maximize performance in a range of endurance sports.

    Nourishing Traditions: The Cookbook that Challenges Politically Correct Nutrition and the Diet Dictocrats
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    Product Description

    A full-spectrum nutritional cookbook with a startling message–animal fats and cholesterol are vital factors in the human diet, necessary for reproduction and normal growth, proper function of the brain and nervous system, protection from disease and optimum energy levels. Includes information on how to prepare grains, health benefits of bone broths and enzyme-rich lacto-fermented foods.

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